A common link between painting and design work has been that of collaboration. Since the early 1980's and the initial creation of Sireadh Bradan Sicir (Seeking Wise Salmon) with poet Aonghas MacNeacail, associations with other writers began. These included George Mackay Brown and photographer Gunnie Moberg, and Traveller and folklorist Stanley Robertson. Many large oils and books grew from these collaborations and, with sculptor Helen Denerley, so did large-scale murals (over 100 x 15 ft) for theatre. Inevitably, such collaboration led to digital form - a vein that has increased ever since.